tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post2265352974055020465..comments2023-10-31T05:07:19.353-04:00Comments on Delenda est Carthago: Hijacking American PolicyDr. Φhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-52762575636901502232011-04-25T01:04:21.434-04:002011-04-25T01:04:21.434-04:00Jeez, it just gets dirtier the deeper you look int...Jeez, it just gets dirtier the deeper you look into it.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01023125641719686613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-72322557191236764502011-04-24T23:35:33.923-04:002011-04-24T23:35:33.923-04:00The concern about Commies in the FDR administratio...The concern about Commies in the FDR administration often gets it backwards -- FDR did not want to appease the USSR because his administration was riddled with Commies, his administration was riddled with Commies because he wanted to appease the USSR. White and his ilk were a symptom, not a cause, of policy. FDR wanted to show Stalin he had no secrets, under the assumption that Stalin would therefore trust him.<br /><br />Punishing Germany was all part of the FDR pro-Soviet program, which continued for some time even after FDR was dead, and even while the anti-Soviet policies started to gain traction.Dexterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07748293799490877339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-2663418892284720482011-04-24T12:20:59.305-04:002011-04-24T12:20:59.305-04:00Dexter: Thanks for the geographical insight. And...Dexter: Thanks for the geographical insight. And with White feeding the Soviets intel through the Potsdam conference (I think), it was easy for the Soviets to have their way with FDR. But the Soviets didn't come up in the Wikipedia article on the Morgenthau Plan. This was something that the usual suspects wanted for their own reasons.Dr. Φhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-76464523581239209632011-04-24T10:23:51.202-04:002011-04-24T10:23:51.202-04:00"Germany had always been a food importer, exc..."Germany had always been a food importer, exchanging its manufactured goods with its European neighbors to feed itself."<br /><br />"Always" isn't quite right. This certainly wasn't true in the 1800s, when Germany was an agricultural land. The problem in the immediate postwar period was that the agricultural areas of eastern Germany were occupied by the Soviets and the Poles, which greatly exacerbated the food shortage.<br /><br />The Morgenthau Plan has to be understood in the context of FDR's strategy of conciliating (or appeasing, in the worst sense of the word) Stalin after WW2. FDR thought that if he gave Stalin everything he wanted, including territorial expansion and the crippling of the German threat to the USSR, then Stalin would be "satisfied" after the war and would not threaten world peace.Dexterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07748293799490877339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-13437161212118580252011-04-23T16:22:32.305-04:002011-04-23T16:22:32.305-04:00"millions of people, mostly children and the ...<i>"millions of people, mostly children and the elderly, died from malnutrition and disease"</i><br /><br />And yet we hear repeatedly about the Holocaust, very little about what Stalin did to kill millions (Mao too, but that was a bit later), and next to nothing about the effects of this plan on the health and welfare of the German people that killed millions due to starvation and disease.<br /><br />An interesting post. It lends some support to those who suggested that some neocon cabal had an outsized influence on US policy on the run up to and during OIF and OEF. An influence that was not responsive to the desires of the American people AFAIK. Policy makers with ethnic-based loyalties to a foreign power that supersede that of their loyalty to the wishes of the American people.Elusive Wapitihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825547465295622621noreply@blogger.com