tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post4477157045728425405..comments2023-10-31T05:07:19.353-04:00Comments on Delenda est Carthago: Town & Country Foods: Highway RobbersDr. Φhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comBlogger106125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-78370613908824194322016-10-30T22:05:31.059-04:002016-10-30T22:05:31.059-04:00Well, not dead exactly. Mostly on life-support. ...Well, not dead exactly. Mostly on life-support. Thanks for commenting.Dr. Φhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-16866308399255159852016-10-30T18:16:04.666-04:002016-10-30T18:16:04.666-04:00I worked for this company in 2003. The owner was a...I worked for this company in 2003. The owner was a misogynistic ass and the employees know full well what they're doing. I realize they're now out of business, thank God, and this blog is years since dead, but everyone is spot on - I could tell you the name of the SINGLE customer service rep that would come to blogs like this and defend the company, as part of her job. Yes, there was only 1 employee out of 100 whose job was customer service. There are aboutique 5 well groomed sales associates that go into people's homeso and 60 ex felons on the phones making cold calls. I was one of 3 days entry girls. <br /><br />Oh and all that "organic" meat? The owner owned a castle ranch in Utah. He was selling you his own beef. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01429447199260740373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-46323623861778757562015-07-07T18:05:21.135-04:002015-07-07T18:05:21.135-04:00We also signed up for the company after being refe...We also signed up for the company after being referred by a friend. The reps that came out to sign us up where a husband and a wife team. The wife did the talking and she talked so fast at one point she asked for water. She seriously sounded like an auctioneer. The fact that we were so busy with 3 kids (one with Autism) and 2 jobs and everything else that goes along with it and we wouldn't have to go to the store for meat any more sounded like a great deal. We too eventually started looking at what we used to pay versus what we were paying monthly now and it was crazy expensive. We too stopped the program and kept our VERY expensive freezer.Cheryl Hudson Dolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02257261307044438794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-15061215085130868752012-02-16T20:22:10.910-05:002012-02-16T20:22:10.910-05:00So Beverly's last post was on Feb 9, 2009 9:50...So Beverly's last post was on Feb 9, 2009 9:50:00 PM, and in an earlier entry of hers on Nov 18, 2008 9:43:00 PM she entered, "I told you, and every reader here, T&C is being investigated." I realize investigations can take awhile, but over 3 years? Who was doing the investigating and what are the results of the investigation? Or is the investigation still on-going? Where are you Beverly? You're our only hope. Maybe we should turn to Obi-Wan Kenobi. Seriously, though, I hope Beverly is OK. She seemed pretty passionate about this subject to just drop it. I'd like to know where she found the time to post all that.Scott Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11141177514177511132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-45149144369450074632011-07-12T18:01:35.135-04:002011-07-12T18:01:35.135-04:00I really wished I would have seen this before we s...I really wished I would have seen this before we signed up! which was over a year and a half ago. I was told by my saleman that this meat was organic so I thought that it was worth the money. Later found out after my second order that only some of the meat is free roaming which it totally not the same thing as organic. <br />I ended up getting a better deal the second time around because I had referred two people and ended up getting a $500 savings that round but in turn I feel like all I did for them was get them ripped off too. I contemplated a lawsuit about the fact that the salesman was telling people it was organic but I figured it just wasn't worth it. <br />I do have to say that the chiken breast is pretty good tasting and I like how quickly the meat thaws out but I am certainly not going to keep a freezer full of only chicken breast. <br />I came across this article simply because I was going to post the sale of my freezer on Craigs list, We paid it off right after we got it and realized how much the interest was. Yikes!SamsFamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13116752693340911875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-8032705064117349052011-06-19T01:39:30.289-04:002011-06-19T01:39:30.289-04:00Town & Country Foods tried to give us their sp...Town & Country Foods tried to give us their spiel quite a while ago, and they called again today trying to get our business again, as if they hadn't before. It renewed my frustration with them. We almost fell for them the first time, but got smart super fast!<br /><br />It was presented as a way to $ave money and feed our family for cheaper. They said our grocery bill for the whole year would only be $1440! Who could beat that? Well, that is if all we wanted to eat was meat and a few veggies... The package contained 63 packages of 8oz frozen veggies, and most of the rest was meat (and a little bit of pasta). My family of four would like to eat more than an 8oz pkg of veggies a week (to share, that is). <br /><br />Anyway-- we managed to get a copy of the sheet that showed point values for our package. Lucky us. We did some calculations after the rep left. You are supposed to get so many packages a year of all the different meats and items offered. The page we had showed unit values for each of these things. They had unit values so that you could mix and match to customize the pkg to your own needs. We took the total charged for the year ($1440) divided by the total points allowed for the year (14,980) and figured out the price per point. Turned out to be .096128 per point. We took the oz per pkg and figured out the $/oz and then multiplied that by 16 to get the price per lb. The amount of money you would be paying PER LB is ridiculous!!!<br /><br /><br />$/lb<br />16.92 New York Strip Steaks<br />22.59 Porterhouse Steaks<br />22.59 T-Bone Steaks<br />17.78 Sirloin Steaks<br />11.54 Round Steaks<br />11.05 Chuck Steaks<br />7.69 Cubed Round Steaks<br />8.17 Stew Beef<br />10.73 Pot Roast 2x 1.5 lbs<br />9.29 Chuck Roast 2x 1.5 lbs<br />8.17 Ground Beef Bulk<br />8.65 Ground Steak Burgers<br />10.57 Beef & Cheddar Burgers<br />11.05 Pork Chops<br />9.93 Center Cut Pork Loin Roast<br />8.97 Ham Roast<br />12.82 Stuffed Pork Chops<br />8.65 Country Spare Ribs<br />5.29 Ground Pork<br />4.45 Whole Fryers<br />3.68 Cut Fryers<br />5.29 Seasond Cut Fryers<br />5.77 Chicken Breasts<br />3.85 Chicken Drumsticks<br />3.85 Chicken Thighs<br />8.65 Ground Turkey Breast<br />7.69 Boneless Chicken Breast<br />3.85 Chicken Legs &Thighs<br />9.61 Chicken Cheddar Burgers<br />10.09 Chicken Sausage<br />17.30 Orange Roughy<br />9.61 Salmon Fillets<br />10.89 Ocean Perch Fillets<br />9.61 Tuna Steaks<br />11.05 Fish Tenders<br />6.25 Italin Sausage Links<br />7.05 Stuffed Shells<br />9.61 Ravioli<br />12.69 Seafood Ravioli<br />8.17 Pasta<br />8.17 Tortellini<br />7.69 Sauces<br />12.18 Marinated Tri-Tip Roast<br />16.02 Stuffed Chicken Breast<br />10.57 Marinated Breast Fillets<br />9.23 Buffalo Wings<br />9.29 Seasoned Pork Roast<br />6.73 Organic Vegetables<br /><br />Yes folks-- it's true. They want to charge you $8.17 per lb for GROUND BEEF! $8.65 per lb for Ground Turkey! Etc. Etc. Etc...<br /><br />Glad to say, we ran the other direction. If you get a call from them, I suggest you do too!<br /><br />(Despite the stupid free freezer they are giving you) You are still going to need to buy food to go with your food. Plus you will spend a BUNDLE in the end.Mom22Payneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01889427395247957613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-54184187659107865822011-03-23T14:27:09.338-04:002011-03-23T14:27:09.338-04:00I am sooo glad I found this before my 5 days were ...I am sooo glad I found this before my 5 days were up.<br /><br />We signed on Saturday ... and I found this today (Wednesday) and I just called to cancel, but was told I have to fax something tomorrow (I don't get home until 10 pm). OH MY GOD I can't believe what I was reading here and then I started thinking, it WOULD be cheaper to buy a side of beef ... it would be cheaper to find a poultry farm and I already grow my veggies. WTH is wrong with this company? <br /><br />If $$ are tight we can always fix our menu to adjust to that, but with this program you can't and if you can't pay it or something comes up, then your credit is ruined. NO WAY!<br /><br />Thank you thank you thank you again a million times over for saving us from this unfortunate mistake. <br /><br />I guess the old saying is true, if it sounds to good to be true IT IS.Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01002863505439160753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-37861403616758514442011-03-23T14:13:31.581-04:002011-03-23T14:13:31.581-04:00I am so grateful to have found this blog.
We sig...I am so grateful to have found this blog. <br />We signed up on Saturday and I called just now to cancel. Delivery was set up for the 30th, but after reading everybody's input, no way. <br />I never thought of going and just buying a half a cow instead ... DUH! So simple yet I was willing to get conned into this expensive venture.<br />I appreciate everybody's input and am glad I found this before it was too late.Conniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01002863505439160753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-66179801184824950412010-12-10T15:26:26.204-05:002010-12-10T15:26:26.204-05:00The trickiest thing about T&C's sales pitc...The trickiest thing about T&C's sales pitch is that you don't find out how many ounces of food you're actually getting in your first order until you've already signed the contract.<br /><br />We signed a contract last weekend after an agonizing 4-HOUR meeting. T&C's concept makes sense, but it isn't until you have your final sales contract with all the numbers in writing that you can actually do the math and figure out a price/pound for your food.<br /><br />I wish we'd found this site earlier, but I can't complain. We found it on the same day we signed the contract, got out our calculator, figured that we would be paying an average cost of just over $15/pound for the food, and promptly signed a cancellation notice. I feel really bad for people who don't discover this scam in time to cancel their contract.<br /><br />The only thing still niggling at me is that we gave up contact information for six of our friends at the sales meeting, and somehow I don't trust that T&C won't try to sell to them too, even though we obviously won't endorse their product or services.<br /><br />My husband was suspicious during the sales pitch, whereas I totally bought into the concept and was much more eager about it than he was...perhaps someday I'll hear the end of it! :plydsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03118738469441348317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-19187273979804306642010-10-16T17:20:30.984-04:002010-10-16T17:20:30.984-04:00I love how almost all the servings at the beginnin...I love how almost all the servings at the beginning call for a pound of meat. The average person does not eat a pound of chicken in one meal. Sorry People.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424900172855501780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-63188461258539386332010-08-29T13:58:08.845-04:002010-08-29T13:58:08.845-04:00We recently had a visit form Town and Country, and...We recently had a visit form Town and Country, and they told us that we would be getting 472 servings for every 6 months, at $276.55 per month. I quickly did the math, 472 divided by 6 months gives me 79 servings per month, and $276.55 divided by 79 servings give me $3.50 per serving. If this is the case, then multiply the total serving for a food item, such as Ground Beef at 80 servings for the order, that gives you $280.00 (a little more than our monthly cost) and then divide that $280.00 by the number of packages in the 80 servings (20 packages) and that gave me my cost per package, a whopping $14.00 per lb of ground beef. Apply this to each line item on the menu (make sure you know how to convert your oz to pounds - 16 oz = 1 lb) and you will get $14.00 per lb for everything on their menu, at least for the menu they gave us. <br /><br />I think Town and Country is a HUGE rip off. If you know how to do your math right, you will realize, that you are paying 300-500% more for your meat than King Soopers. But if you don't mind paying that much more for your meat, that they claim is better, than this company is for you. If they lie about their costs, I wonder what else they lie about. The sales person told me that I am getting better meat for less than I am currently paying for the meat I buy at Kings Soopers. After this lie, I doubt that their meat is any different than the meat I currently buy.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18180669813954112999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-55659345702472297422010-05-17T08:58:18.905-04:002010-05-17T08:58:18.905-04:00I was suckered in last week it has been 5business ...I was suckered in last week it has been 5business days since. i have not recieved the freexer or food yet can I get out of this. anyone who knows about the investigation or a law suit please blog me the info. what the salesman said and wrote down are different. I am being charged over 5thou and only getting the freezer and six months of food what a rip off. I am very upset can anyone help me with info?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16849446248411418361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-24803654283272033212010-04-13T01:16:45.776-04:002010-04-13T01:16:45.776-04:00Beverly,
Thanks a bunch for your work on this blo...Beverly,<br /><br />Thanks a bunch for your work on this blog. It is so easy to spot the frauds/misinformed when you take them to task. you're awesome!! I should have went to bed hours ago but this blog reads like a novel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-8149297483357604402010-04-13T00:44:30.295-04:002010-04-13T00:44:30.295-04:00I read this blog... most of it anyway shortly afte...I read this blog... most of it anyway shortly after a sales rep left our home after 2 agonizing hours of presentation. The sales tactics I've read in this blog are accurate. She would absolutely stop the presentation if one of us had to leave to room to tend to our children, who were patiently waiting for our attention. There was a ton of scribbling of figures onto a folded presentation pamphlet that neglected any of the details of the extra costs described in this blog. It was made clear we would not be allowed to keep any of the presentation materials. We made it clear that we would not be signing anything until we had a chance to look things over. It was made clear we were not going to be able to hang onto the "menu". The only thing we were given after a two hour presentation was a post-it note with her phone number and two costs. It stated 294/month and Direct $177... oh and the free cryovac samples.<br /><br />I was astounded. Do you really think you're going to leave my house after a two hour presentation and leave nothing but a scrap of paper and think I'm not going to be suspicious and do a little googling?<br /><br />There is a reason they don't leave the menu or any documentation to allow you to do your homework. They don't want you to calculate cost per pound.<br /><br />I am a food industry professional and have worked as a chef, food manufacturer, food consultant, food advocate for better food standards so I was intrigued by the meeting. What a disappointment. I was intellectually insulted at what this sales rep was stating throughout the sales presentation. There are many sources of good quality food without buying a freezer full of over-priced meat. In Colorado, we have numerous organic and all-natural markets to choose from where you can find grass-fed healthy meats. The clowns at T&C are still trying to pedal corn fed, well marbled beef as a good thing. I could not get the sales rep to state that they do not sell grass fed beef. It was always "well, it's pretty close, they may be fed a little corn"<br /><br />We obviously did not sign up and I look forward to her follow up call. I will be asking her some pointed questions on the phone regarding price per pound and exact costs. If the question is avoided and only can be addressed in person because it has to be explained then what I already know will be confirmed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-46659459166956275022010-03-11T19:49:36.825-05:002010-03-11T19:49:36.825-05:00What they also don't tell you, is that althoug...What they also don't tell you, is that although they claim that you can cancel, and just continue paying the cost of the freezer ... they will continue charging you 'overhead and service fees' worth a couple hundred dollars each month .. wtf? If am no longer getting the food, AND I have paid over $3000 for the freezer ... you are STILL charging me for overhead and service? This is a RIP OFF, dont do it.ACEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18205709595386078278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-83858587844523709182010-02-20T20:12:03.349-05:002010-02-20T20:12:03.349-05:00I'm going to have to agree with Beverly here. ...I'm going to have to agree with Beverly here. I just had one of the salesman over at my house. He seemed nice enough at first, but eventually just wears you down with numbers and ambiguous talk about paying "overhead" that makes no sense. You should have seen all the scribbling by the end of the pitch! He always claimed that we would get "Whole Foods Quality" at a "Grocery Store Price". The concept seemed OK to me, as I would like to cut out some grocery shopping, so I signed the contract. <br /><br />The beauty of their pitch is that you have no real way to compare prices, as they quote you a huge price for 8 months worth of food, without disclosing individual prices. In my case, Menu 51 amounted to $998. This is after the supposed 25% discount for purchasing the $1500 freezer and $1600 cookset , oh yeah and don't forget about the one-time $1700 "overhead fee", all financed at 20% APR.<br /><br />Well today I took the order form to a local grocery store and priced out everything on the form in the same quantity. The grand total: just under $500. <br /><br />So their supposed "Grocery Store" price is about exactly double that of the "Grocery Store", and you're expected to pay $3000-$4800 in upfront costs and merchandise, financed at a whopping 20%!<br /><br />No Thank You!!! Keep in mind that you have 3 business days by law to cancel any contracts that are signed. To cancel, sign the cancellation notice on the back of your purchase orders and fax back to Town & Country.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17053698076752458666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-74416183644237533072010-01-07T19:27:55.306-05:002010-01-07T19:27:55.306-05:00We have had T and C Foods for several years and ha...We have had T and C Foods for several years and had great meat up til recently. We pretty much knew what we were getting into and it was a good deal. Our meat lasts 12 months and we paid about $100 / month for 10 months and it has tasted better than grocery meat. Recently they packed in better packaging, but the roasts were tough. In the past if I did not like something I just called and they promptly replaced it for free. Had a good rep, too. It's time to re-order but the numbers for Dallas have been disconnected. Hmmmmm. Thanks for the heads up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-6273760650921103932009-12-16T20:49:43.906-05:002009-12-16T20:49:43.906-05:00All, there is additional news (if you haven't...All, there is additional news (if you haven't already heard), Fair Finance seems to be out of business. The FBI raided all their offices, confiscated computers, files, etc... see below:<br />http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/4717966<br /><br />and<br />http://www.ibj.com/fair-finance-offices-fail-to-reopen/PARAMS/article/14826Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-90691246346606864452009-12-04T18:23:15.265-05:002009-12-04T18:23:15.265-05:00My husband and I met with Joel the sales rep out o...My husband and I met with Joel the sales rep out of Ft Collins, CO this past Monday. I was coming off a long weekend with a house full of family members and getting a cold. But I listened. At the end of the pitch I asked to see the contracts so that I could have more time to read in more detail what I was signing. Joel refused saying I would only receive it when I signed it. In my experience this is a huge red flag. He also told me that he had a few phone calls to make and was happy to wait around while we talked it over because his closing ratio decreased significantly once he left our house. Was he kidding me? His closing ratio is not my problem and another red flag to a very bad sales person at a minimum. I am not buying and am going to speak to my husband about becoming vegetarians again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-64470959369543793552009-10-29T18:54:52.193-04:002009-10-29T18:54:52.193-04:00Thanks for all the information re T&C-we heard...Thanks for all the information re T&C-we heard the ramblin sales pitch last night (we try to research before buying). Two red flags: He kept saying "I need to help you feel warm and fuzzy about this" when I brought up a question. Also, he completely skated around my questions about price per pound or units. To his credit he was nice to leave us some meats and didn't hammer us too hard for declining. Thanks Beverly!! <br /><br />Tim & JackieUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382096705597710824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-9272883833666560542009-10-29T01:00:02.012-04:002009-10-29T01:00:02.012-04:00We were given the pitch tonight, and thought it so...We were given the pitch tonight, and thought it sounded good, but wanted to think it over. We managed to sneak a copy of their Unit Value point system page. After he left, we plugged all into a spreadsheet. Using menu 52 we included oz per package, total oz per order, unit values, total unit values (depending on # of packages) and were able to figure the total $ amount per item, then broke it down per oz, and then multiplied it by 16 to get the price per pound. The following is the PRICE PER POUND of each item, assuming $1440 for food only in a 6 month period (so, not including freezer, overhead, etc). We were shocked ourselves, and SOOOO glad we didn't sign anything. <br /><br />Beverly-- WE THINK YOU ARE AWESOME!!! Happy to send you their "Unit Value" point system if you want it.<br /><br />16.92 New York Strip Steaks<br />22.59 Porterhouse Steaks<br />22.59 T-Bone Steaks<br />17.78 Sirloin Steaks<br />11.54 Round Steaks<br />11.05 Chuck Steaks<br />7.69 Cubed Round Steaks<br />8.17 Stew Beef<br />10.73 Pot Roast<br />9.29 Chuck Roast<br />8.17 Ground Beef Bulk<br />8.65 Ground Steak Burgers<br />10.57 Beef & Cheddar Burgers<br /> <br />11.05 Pork Chops<br />9.93 Center Cut Pork Loin Roast<br />8.97 Ham Roast<br />12.82 Stuffed Pork Chops<br />8.65 Country Spare Ribs<br />5.29 Ground Pork<br /> <br />4.45 Whole Fryers<br />3.68 Cut Fryers<br />5.29 Seasond Cut Fryers<br />5.77 Chicken Breasts<br />3.85 Chicken Drumsticks<br />3.85 Chicken Thighs<br />8.65 Ground Turkey Breast<br />7.69 Boneless Chicken Breast<br />3.85 Chicken Legs &Thighs<br />9.61 Chicken Cheddar Burgers<br />10.09 Chicken Sausage<br /> <br />17.30 Orange Roughy<br />9.61 Salmon Fillets<br />10.89 Ocean Perch Fillets<br />9.61 Tuna Steaks<br />11.05 Fish Tenders<br /> <br />6.25 Italin Sausage Links<br />7.05 Stuffed Shells<br />9.61 Ravioli<br />12.69 Seafood Ravioli<br />8.17 Pasta<br />8.17 Tortellini<br />7.69 Sauces<br /> <br />12.18 Marinated Tri-Tip Roast<br />16.02 Stuffed Chicken Breast<br />10.57 Marinated Breast Fillets<br />9.23 Buffalo Wings<br />9.29 Seasoned Pork Roast<br /> <br />6.73 Organic VegetablesMom22Payneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01889427395247957613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-41867323292701711882009-10-27T01:41:01.776-04:002009-10-27T01:41:01.776-04:00Well, this was an entertaining read. Thank you, Be...Well, this was an entertaining read. Thank you, Beverly and others, for helping to set the record straight and get the word out.<br /><br />We had the T&C presentation tonight. I am a skeptic by nature, and only agreed to host the high-pressure, only-if-you-and-your-wife-are-there presentation in a moment of weakness. :-) Nevertheless, they offered us free food, which is usually not a bad thing, and my wife and I have a pact that we ALWAYS sleep on a deal before committing.<br /><br />Coincidentally, I am a software engineer also (hi, Roy!). Between doing the math and finding this blog, we of course have decided not to sign up. If our sales rep calls back (doubtful, because when these high pressure deals aren't closed immediately, they almost never are), I'm going to ask her how she lives with herself.<br /><br />A word of advice to Beverly: save your wrath and rancor for T&C. Not everyone who visits here and at first disagrees with you is a highly placed T&C executive. Most, I think, are probably just other people <b>like you</b> who were taken in by the sales pitch, and are initially unwilling to believe the objective comparison. Or they made an error in their addition. :-) They will be more willing allies if they are not insulted first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-88079207271193359452009-09-14T14:08:59.747-04:002009-09-14T14:08:59.747-04:00I am wondering if this is the same company that so...I am wondering if this is the same company that sold freezer and frozen foods in the 1950's. If it is. Please tell me how to get in touch with Town and Country. The reason I am asking is that In 1958 my grandparents purchased a Blue Ribbon Town and Country Continental upright freezer. I inherited said freeze in 1991. Will I have been getting a lot of hassle from my family and friends for not getting rid of the old freezer and buying a new one. I tell them if they know where I could buy a freeze today that would last 51 years to let me know. The only draw back is that it is a manual defrost. So if anyone knows if this is the same company please let me know mc.bcmi@earthlink.net I can fined no information on this freezer other then my grandparents bought it from a company that sold freezer with their frozen foods. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-67079765475330659012009-08-19T17:08:36.989-04:002009-08-19T17:08:36.989-04:00My wife and I received the pitch last night. We we...My wife and I received the pitch last night. We were shown menu 51 and it all seemed very reasonable at first. The quality, convenience and variety of the meats sounded good. I was hesitant about needing to buy a freezer (we already have a 2nd fridge) and the $2195 overhead, but when we thought about keeping our monthly entrees under $177 per month (not including the overhead and freezer), it seemed like a reasonable deal. So around 10pm, we signed on the dotted line.<br />So after the salesman left, and being a night owl, I found this thread and started doing my own calculations. Not including the vegetables, we ended up with a total of 1740 ounces (108.75 lbs) of various foods (beef, foul & pasta). Over 476 servings that amounted to only 3.66 onces per meal. That might satisfy my wife, but certainly not me or my teenage (black hole of food) son. And at a cost of $1065.31 priced out at $9.80 per lb. Considering the large pecentage of poultry and pasta in our order, it seemed way too expensive.<br /><br />The good news was that I realized our error, called the salesmans cell phone the next morning (at 7:15am, which kinda pissed him off) and told him to cancel the purchase agreement. He of course made his best effort to change my mind, brought up the evenings points about 75 percent of food cost is supermarket overhead (is that really true?), water weight, inflation, etc. But I just stuck to my point that $9.80 per average pound of food was more than I paying the supermarket, let alone $3690 for the fridge and O/H.<br /><br />To the salesmans credit, he said he I wouldnt need to sign the notice of cancellation, that he would call it in. But I wanted to play it safe, and hand delivered the cancellation in the afternoon, and the receptionist said that he had informed them. Not that I am recommending trusting any other salesmen.<br /><br />Anyway, thanks for the posts. Its nice to be able to get timely reviews. <br /><br />Beverly, your tenacious and very informed, perhaps a bit too verbose, and definetly in need of a new cause. <br /><br />Roy, my hats off to you. You were not only willing to identify yourself, but were open enough to admit your error. A very rare quality. That really impressed me.<br /><br />Cheers!rbfriednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-62726101568172752752009-08-13T13:09:17.753-04:002009-08-13T13:09:17.753-04:00We got the pitch the other night and it smacked of...We got the pitch the other night and it smacked of time-share. Noble enough idea...just not in the hands of these folks. Fortunatley, we were not an easy case for this particular "saleman" so we were dealing with him outside of his comfort zone, obviously. We buy beef of the hoof in quarters, can pickles and freeze sweet corn, have a huge garden, no excess freezer space, etc. Not to mention that I worked as an Purdue Extension Educator in an amish colony for 4 years, or that we had a rather interuptive 22-month-old running around during it all. Again, he was out of his element. After 90 minutes of successive "listen to this" puedo-epiphanies (including fuzzy math)...I told him that we would look at his informtion, compare to our average monthly food budget, and be back in touch if necessary. He got visibly disturbed. DING! DING! DING! Big ol' red flag went up. If someone can't give you the time to make an informed decision...it's a scam. One would think these people would be better at "selling" these products. Going door-to-door with this package must be a miserable existence. Parting thought...why would a food delivery company be financing freezers, grills and cookware? That's when we knew it was total nonsense. RUN...don't walk away from this one. Your time is more valuable than their "free" box of snake oil.Chad Pfitzernoreply@blogger.com