tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post4834745670562281270..comments2023-10-31T05:07:19.353-04:00Comments on Delenda est Carthago: Reflections on George MeadowsDr. Φhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-28614141144241110072013-08-27T22:54:26.392-04:002013-08-27T22:54:26.392-04:00Prof Hale: As it happens, I have a post on secess...Prof Hale: As it happens, I have a post on secession coming out soon. But the question is not the circumstances in 1860 but in the 1880s.<br /><br /><i>their constabulary was laying down on the job</i><br /><br />EW: Do we know this to be the case?Dr. Φhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-27909983866560721092013-08-26T16:40:05.160-04:002013-08-26T16:40:05.160-04:00"This was not a case of a howling mob murderi...<i>"This was not a case of a howling mob murdering a random black person. There was a heinous crime: indeed, a crime meriting the standards of the death penalty, probably by even the higher standards of today. The was an investigation by as competent an authority as could be arranged. And notably, the “racist” vigilantes were looking to that authority, if not exactly patient with it."</i><br /><br />This is an important point, one that takes a lot of the edge of a naughty word like "vigilante".<br /><br />It's as almost as if they weren't impatient per se with the justice system itself, rather with the mechanism that brought offenders to the system. I.e., their constabulary was laying down on the job and not ridding them of bad actors.Elusive Wapitihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825547465295622621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-41354596284241111132013-08-26T09:10:46.285-04:002013-08-26T09:10:46.285-04:00Thanks for the rundown in this case. Thee are lar...Thanks for the rundown in this case. Thee are larger issues at stake here in our times as we have seen in other times and places. high profile cases like Trayvon Martin and OJ Simpson, being decided on ways contrary to the popular narrative undermines faith in the system. But it never asks, " what do you have faith that the system will do"? In most cases, people want the system to return verdicts that match their own sense of justice. Family and friends of the guilty want to see him released. Family and friends of the victims want to see the accused punished, without regard to the evidence.<br /><br />Thus is vigilantism born. At some point, faith in the system crosses to the point where reasonable men choose to do it themselves because they see there is no alternative if they wish to preserve their society from the depredations of the criminal class.<br /><br />This becomes more important when you have government officials who use the law to implement clearly unlawful policies and are themselves above the law.<br /><br />The Southern states withdrew from the National government when it became obvious that they had become a permanent minority and that the Northern states would always dominate them in voting. This was the root of the war of 1861. And why lots of people are expecting another war soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com