tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post6078194718373405963..comments2023-10-31T05:07:19.353-04:00Comments on Delenda est Carthago: Thoughts on Rearmament: Getting There from HereDr. Φhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-87916957482272793462014-12-15T09:07:41.252-05:002014-12-15T09:07:41.252-05:00Here,
Base regulations are legally enforcable as ...Here,<br /> Base regulations are legally enforcable as if they are law. It is a clever workaround. you don't actually get charged with a firearms violation (not against the law), you get charged with violation of base regulations (against the law). <br /><br />@Dr P, Every military base I have been on has been uniformly prohibitive of loaded firearmes being transported on the reservation property, that would include storage in a POV. The nearly universal reg (if there is an exception, I have never seen it), is unloaded and inaccessible to the driver, in a case. And loaded mags are considered a loaded weapon.<br /><br />The quantico rules are typical: <br /> <br />http://www.quanticoshootingclub.com/rules.php<br /><br />I think I remember in 2010 the DoD moving to a uniform standard for all DoD bases afte teh Hassan shootings at Ft Hood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-16782766131051211642014-12-11T20:30:43.397-05:002014-12-11T20:30:43.397-05:00@GV: My hypotheticals were examining various leve...@GV: My hypotheticals were examining various levels of firearm liberalization on military bases. The reason I recommended against leaving a loaded weapon (i.e. Conditions 1 & 2) in an automobile had to with safety, or perceived safety. But the assumption was that the base would allow it.<br /><br />@Here: If I were police or PSO or had the kind of life that put me in higher-threat areas of town, then I would carry Condition 2 (since Glocks are DA only). And I appreciate that proper trigger discipline prevents ADs. My discomfort is strictly psychological.Dr. Φhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-53147209676527667792014-12-11T10:08:29.456-05:002014-12-11T10:08:29.456-05:00Generic, Thanks for your clarification on leaving ...Generic, Thanks for your clarification on leaving a loaded weapon in your car. It is specifically not illegal in Washington state. I do agree that most of the problem with AD is idiots with guns. I have never had an AD and only ever known one person who did. He was stupid and got lucky. He won't do it again.<br /><br />By the way, I believe there is a difference between "against base regulations" and "illegal". Is there a federal law prohibiting it or is it up to each base commander. Seems to me the latter is correct.<br /><br />As far as Condition 3 goes, I don't see the need and I don't think that it tactically is a good idea. There will be enough things to think about as some mugger rushes at you while you try to unholster, point, and shoot without also having to rack the slide. With the new generation firearms (ie anything younger than thirty years or so) I don't think there are many firearms that can accidentally go off because of something bumping against the hammer. And since I never unload my weapon unless I am at the range shooting or at home cleaning, the difference between Condition 1 and Condition 3 is somewhat irrelevant from that perspective.heresolonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00461382067580153600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-34710534704486227832014-12-09T09:44:05.950-05:002014-12-09T09:44:05.950-05:00Illegal refers to Privately owned firearms on base...Illegal refers to Privately owned firearms on base, locked in a trunk. i thought this discussion was about bringing arms onto post. <br /><br />In Virginia, that's just fine, loaded or empty. Military posts (like the Pentagon parking lot) don't obey state laws on this matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-71735378397478740902014-12-08T21:23:52.138-05:002014-12-08T21:23:52.138-05:00Locking a firearm in a car is illegal? I didn'...Locking a firearm in a car is illegal? I didn't know. Could it be just a Virginia thing? And I assume it doesn't apply to the trunk, which I think is protected by federal law. The reason I recommended against it is that safety ought to preclude leaving a firearm with a round in the chamber anywhere, including in a vehicle.<br /><br />Full disclosure: in my personal capacity, I carry in "Condition 3", i.e. with an empty chamber. Yes, I know that I will have to spend a precious half-second racking the slide in a defensive situation. But I have to weight that against the part of my anatomy that the holstered weapon is pointing.<br /><br />So in my case, a clearing barrell isn't necessary. But people who carry "Condition 1" at some point have to unload the weapon when they take it off, and at THAT point need a safe (or safer) place to point it. So it's not clear that the cause of the accidental discharges is the clearing barrel so much as the requirement that the weapon be continually loaded and unloaded.Dr. Φhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-491504963783435922014-12-08T13:21:20.850-05:002014-12-08T13:21:20.850-05:00@ Here
The issue with the clearing barrels is that...@ Here<br />The issue with the clearing barrels is that the hand that is accidently discharging is attached to the same arms that is pointing the weapon that is attached to the same brain that thought the weapon was clear and was not expecting it to go off. In bosnia, 30% of clearing barrel accidents MISSED the sand in the barrel and shot through the metal sides. (I was base commander so I kept track of such things)<br /><br />The harm of locking the gun in your car is that it is illegal. Recommending it is the same as recommending people break laws. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-84835676410878966982014-12-08T10:07:35.896-05:002014-12-08T10:07:35.896-05:00Generic,
I get that loading and unloading is gene...Generic,<br /><br />I get that loading and unloading is generally what causes AD, but who cares if the AD is always into a clearing barrel. That's sort of the point, isn't it?<br /><br />The other thing that loading and unloading does is wear the magazine spring. It is the cycling of the spring that causes fatigue. Don't know how many cycles it takes but each time you insert and eject a round you are working that spring and this is what causes metal fatigue.<br /><br />DC: I don't see why leaving loaded guns locked in your car would be an issue or why you would be hesitant to recommend it. That is the default for everyone I know. Going somewhere that doesn't allow you to carry inside, we all just remove the pistol from our belts and tuck the whole thing into the glove-box or under the seat, somewhere out of sight. With the car locked the firearm is no more dangerous than if it were unloaded and the magazine left sitting right next to it. A thief is getting both either way.heresolonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00461382067580153600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-66447980606126630182014-12-08T08:46:32.498-05:002014-12-08T08:46:32.498-05:00The use of clearing barrels elevates the chance of...The use of clearing barrels elevates the chance of an accidental discharge dramatically. While I was in Bosnia, every accidental discharge was at a clearing barrel. <br /><br />By contrast, Special ops, MPs, and foreign troops, never used the clearing barrels, carried loaded everywhere, and didn't have any problems.<br /><br />Further, constantly loading, unloading, and reloading the same round increases the probability of a malfunction when you most need that first round to work. This is because the act of chambering slightly pushes back on the nose of the round a little bit. Do that over and over and you get a round that is measurably shorter and no longer a SAAMI spec size for that caliber. This problem is mostly seem in pistol ammo with no crimp, where the mouth of the case determines headspace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com