tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post7967580721904434493..comments2023-10-31T05:07:19.353-04:00Comments on Delenda est Carthago: Movie Potpourri IDr. Φhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-33564523955487483372011-02-22T16:43:27.919-05:002011-02-22T16:43:27.919-05:00Samson: Sadly, the anti-top gun meme has spread we...<i>Samson: Sadly, the anti-top gun meme has spread well beyond it's source as you describe it.</i><br /><br />I guess I hang out with the wrong (right) crowd. Plus I don't consume any pop culture made past 1991.<br /><br />Anyway, I have said this before in other venues, and will continue to say: Reading "homoeroticism" into culture where it doesn't exist is a terrible symptom of modern decline. Only a decadent society is unable to understand that men can form close bonds of companionship without homosexual overtones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-23941740803566098332011-02-21T23:46:37.936-05:002011-02-21T23:46:37.936-05:00There was a terrible movie that came out in the mi...There was a terrible movie that came out in the mid '90s that had a long party scene in which Quentin Tarantino, in one of his stellar acting gigs, deconstructed <em>Top Gun's</em> homoeroticism. It ended with the "You can ride my tail anytime" line. <br /><br />If I remember correctly, it was purposely moronic, but the roots seem to have taken hold at least a decade ago on that silly meme.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-55901157526081550282011-02-21T14:52:02.127-05:002011-02-21T14:52:02.127-05:00Trumwill: I see your point about the different wo...Trumwill: I see your point about the different worlds problem, and of course different maturity levels would be an issue in most real life situations. But these didn't seem to be issues in the context of the movie. Knives seemed to be happy entering into Scott's world; Scott, for his part, nowhere exhibited an excess of maturity.<br /><br />Samson: Sadly, the anti-top gun meme has spread well beyond it's source as you describe it.Dr. Φhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-81280500626628990302011-02-21T14:07:21.036-05:002011-02-21T14:07:21.036-05:00Speaking of Tom Cruise, when was it exactly that p...<i>Speaking of Tom Cruise, when was it exactly that popular opinion decided Top Gun was the punch-line to a fag joke? </i><br /><br />This paralleled the rise of self-loathing, masculinity-hating, anti-Western losers who also read homoeroticism into LOTR. <i>Top Gun</i> kicks ass; it belongs on Hollywood's Top 30 List (at least), and none of the authentic men whom I know would even think to interpret it as anything but testosterone-fueled jet fighter awesomeness.<br /><br /><i><a href="http://www.mutantreviewers.com/rtopgun.html" rel="nofollow">"I’m not saying</a> that women won’t enjoy Top Gun, but seriously, the Japanese translation of the film's title might as well be 'Super Macho Plane Adventure.</i>"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-92227201423151585642011-02-21T12:28:04.538-05:002011-02-21T12:28:04.538-05:00The issue for me isn't that they haven't h...The issue for me isn't that they haven't had sex, but rather that with him having been independent for a few years and her still in high school, they're at very different points in the development curve. You're in a sort of holding tank where you have to wait for her to become who she is going to become, while he is much further on his way there.<br /><br />When I was his age, I dated someone her age (with her parents' blessing, no less). Despite the fact we were both in school, we inhabited different worlds. It was impossible to reconcile. I would imagine that there are cases where it can be reconciled, but Knives does not strike me as an exception to the rule.<br /><br />The main reason for Scott to hold on is the hope that he might be "gaming the system" (winning the devotion of someone better than he is). That's every bit the gamble that Ramona was. Moreso.<br /><br />Of course, if I were Scott's friend I would probably be warning him off both and suggesting that being single and waiting for something more right is something worth considering. <br /><br />It would be wise counsel from a hypocrite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-75180076423550125112011-02-21T10:58:59.787-05:002011-02-21T10:58:59.787-05:00EW: My email address is phi dot delenda at gmail ...EW: My email address is phi dot delenda at gmail dot com. I thought it was part of my Blogger profile . . .<br /><br />Yeah, <em>Iron Eagle</em> were pretty bad. But I never considered <em>Transformers</em> a movie about the military in the way that <em>Top Gun</em> was.Dr. Φhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-71967154615235845412011-02-21T10:12:50.449-05:002011-02-21T10:12:50.449-05:00"Back in ‘86, that movie defined military avi...<i>"Back in ‘86, that movie defined military aviation for a generation of AFROTC cadets. "</i><br /><br />Not that I didn't enjoy Top Gun, but it really was the only game in town until Transformers came along. I mean, the AF had to settle for Iron Eagle. And don't get me started on Firebirds.<br /><br />Also, I'd like to converse with you offline. Do you have an email address you're willing to share?Elusive Wapitihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825547465295622621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-53559853485591289832011-02-21T04:38:12.509-05:002011-02-21T04:38:12.509-05:00Well, I'd pick the word "embryonic" ...Well, I'd pick the word "embryonic" or "unconsummated" over "fake", unless your point is that Asian girl will soon realize that she really is out of Scott's league. But she might not; after all, 13 years in, Mrs. Phi still hasn't figured it out. :-)Dr. Φhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-66104796921590310792011-02-21T03:04:33.360-05:002011-02-21T03:04:33.360-05:00Re: Scott Pilgrim
I might agree with you on that ...Re: Scott Pilgrim<br /><br />I might agree with you on that point if she weren't still in high school. For a variety of reasons, it wasn't a real relationship. He didn't leave something for nothing so much as he left a fake something for a possible something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com