tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post9109929777294321608..comments2023-10-31T05:07:19.353-04:00Comments on Delenda est Carthago: SAT QuestionDr. Φhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-8844926052000174212010-05-13T21:55:29.712-04:002010-05-13T21:55:29.712-04:00I'd have chosen B.
PeterI'd have chosen B.<br /><br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-73068686099789048112010-05-13T12:05:54.233-04:002010-05-13T12:05:54.233-04:00Phi, I would have gotten it wrong, because I would...Phi, I would have gotten it wrong, because I would have thought "a wide range (singular) ... which includes (singular)" was correct. And I didn't see why "d," with plain old "including" was wrong either.<br /><br />Both C and D seem to be wrong because of lack of "...as." So if "C" had said "which includes as," it should be correct.<br /><br />I guess we're supposed to read it like so: "where it continues to be used ..... as (list)." We wouldn't say "it continues to be used ... (list)."<br /><br />So it's the "it continues to be used ..." part, rather than "wide range of purposes" that we need to match up with the next clause. We made the common mistake of focusing on the last part of the clause rather than the first.<br /><br />But a reporter would never write a sentence with that many clauses anyway. :)Sheila Tonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02353632937706232702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-12954855356324517212010-05-13T10:46:04.951-04:002010-05-13T10:46:04.951-04:00I would have re-written it to be "which inclu...<i>I would have re-written it to be "which include military signaling, rhythmic accompaniment for vocal performance..." etc. Same thing for (D)..."purposes, including military signaling, rhythmic accompaniment..." sounds more correct to me.</i><br /><br />Exactly. Now it is obvious that the phrase is subordinate to "purposes" rather than "used".<br /><br />It seems that the sentence wants to have it both ways. On the one hand, by using the word "include" or "including", we are implying that the larger group in which the list is included -- and thus what the phrase is subordinate to -- is "a wide variety of purposes". But by using the word "as", we move the subordination to the word "used".<br /><br />Sheila has a wordsmithing background. Hopefully she will drop by . . . .Dr. Φhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14086783503820477029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29763791.post-74377892348214691002010-05-13T09:57:57.193-04:002010-05-13T09:57:57.193-04:00Before reading the whole post, I chose B.
But...t...Before reading the whole post, I chose B.<br /><br />But...to me, B and D both would need to have the "as", so "which include as a military signal" sounds more correct to me. Don't know why...maybe it falls back to the "to be used" phrase, that there is some implicit "to be used <i>AS</i>..." in the list items.<br /><br />Re: <i>which include a military signal</i>...this sounds wrong with the "a". I would have re-written it to be "which include military signaling, rhythmic accompaniment for vocal performance..." etc. Same thing for (D)..."purposes, including military signaling, rhythmic accompaniment..." sounds more correct to me.<br /><br />I wonder if the little sub phrases are complicating the construction...if it would be easier to recognize the "right way" if the sentence was more simple...?<br /><br /><i>"The gong continues to be used for a wide range of purposes, including as a military signal, a rhythmic accompaniment for vocal performance, and a ritual instrument."</i> Sounds right to me.<br /><br />(That sentence, the one on the SAT, the way it is written, sounds, like, totally, to me, a run-on sentence, with all those commas.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12644557735209287031noreply@blogger.com